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	<title>Comments on: Ant Rant</title>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://lillhawkins.com/2008/06/30/ant-rant/#comment-1090</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lill,
 
At the end of the day, I'm actually "agin'" testing, too; in fact, you've even reminded me of yet another reason:
 
"What happens when kids fail the tests? Knowing the government the way I do (hey, I sleep with a government worker, don’t forget),... "
 
I *was* a government (social services) worker and know, first hand, about the very real ways in which - some - govt workers (w/small-minds and inflated egos) routinely wreak havoc in the lives of private citizens. Very scary. (Top secret: Years ago, as a brand new homeschooler, I couldn't join HSLDA fast enough!)
 
As for "checkbook math," I suppose I should have done a better job differentiating between covering ground quickly while a motivated student (a primary benefit of homeschooling) and moving out into the world - as a new graduate - with "just enough" education (as in, "just enough math to balance a checkbook").  Sure authentic learning is unfolding and flowing, yada, yada (smile - I'm teasing you now), but why must math beyond very simple arithmetic interfere with that process?  Especially when its absence makes college / vocational programs (if chosen) all the more costly and time-consuming. 

Though I don't see why the study of mathematics isn't considered beneficial in itself.  I just don't get it . 

Poor Math. Unloved. Unappreciated. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lill,</p>
<p>At the end of the day, I&#8217;m actually &#8220;agin&#8217;&#8221; testing, too; in fact, you&#8217;ve even reminded me of yet another reason:</p>
<p>&#8220;What happens when kids fail the tests? Knowing the government the way I do (hey, I sleep with a government worker, don’t forget),&#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>I *was* a government (social services) worker and know, first hand, about the very real ways in which - some - govt workers (w/small-minds and inflated egos) routinely wreak havoc in the lives of private citizens. Very scary. (Top secret: Years ago, as a brand new homeschooler, I couldn&#8217;t join HSLDA fast enough!)</p>
<p>As for &#8220;checkbook math,&#8221; I suppose I should have done a better job differentiating between covering ground quickly while a motivated student (a primary benefit of homeschooling) and moving out into the world - as a new graduate - with &#8220;just enough&#8221; education (as in, &#8220;just enough math to balance a checkbook&#8221;).  Sure authentic learning is unfolding and flowing, yada, yada (smile - I&#8217;m teasing you now), but why must math beyond very simple arithmetic interfere with that process?  Especially when its absence makes college / vocational programs (if chosen) all the more costly and time-consuming. </p>
<p>Though I don&#8217;t see why the study of mathematics isn&#8217;t considered beneficial in itself.  I just don&#8217;t get it . </p>
<p>Poor Math. Unloved. Unappreciated. <img src='http://lillhawkins.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Elisheva Levin</title>
		<link>http://lillhawkins.com/2008/06/30/ant-rant/#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisheva Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could also write a novel about this, but I won't subject you to that! :)

In my own experience with math (I was a slacker until ninth grade) Algebra-Algebra II can be learned in a summer. I did it so that I could continue to read novels under my desk in my high school classes. The same goes for geometry.

And in case reading is the issue--I have seen amazing progress this summer for kids over 5 weeks! Then if they actually read books, by gum, they'll be readers. All this without spending years in a classroom...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could also write a novel about this, but I won&#8217;t subject you to that! <img src='http://lillhawkins.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In my own experience with math (I was a slacker until ninth grade) Algebra-Algebra II can be learned in a summer. I did it so that I could continue to read novels under my desk in my high school classes. The same goes for geometry.</p>
<p>And in case reading is the issue&#8211;I have seen amazing progress this summer for kids over 5 weeks! Then if they actually read books, by gum, they&#8217;ll be readers. All this without spending years in a classroom&#8230;</p>
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